I'm weaker than I should be.. No, really! - Guild Wars Forums

Jagnot · Sep 02, 2007, 08:52 PM // 20:52

I just finished the Command Post missions (Nightfall) and decided to switch from Paragon/Monk to Paragon/Warrior. ..One reason being I wanted to effectively use a gold sword I had found before hand. It makes poison last 33% longer (more on this in a bit) and does 10-13 damage, definitely NOT max damage, but it's my first gold item so I'll happily use it anyways.

The thing is, once I switch over I allocated enough points to bring my swordsmanship skill up to 9 (my gold sword needed 8), I used it in combat against some Corsairs (I only have Nightfall) and I was doing 4-7 damage max! What's up with that?!

Also, how do I use the +33% poison duration thing?

milan · Sep 02, 2007, 08:59 PM // 20:59

you have to first consider the far lower damage that you are doing because of your weapon itself. Then consider damage mitigation that virtually everything in Elona has.

The poison duration is if you use a skill that poisons the mob when you hit them with your sword, the poison duration will last 33% longer, i.e. stated poisoning time = 10 seconds, actual poisoning time = 13 seconds.

Jagnot · Sep 02, 2007, 09:25 PM // 21:25

So the reason I was doing hardly any damage was because they had some sort of resistance?

Coloneh · Sep 02, 2007, 09:55 PM // 21:55

yeah, they were wearing armor.

Jagnot · Sep 02, 2007, 10:16 PM // 22:16

Ah, thats another thing. Can anyone explain armor to me? Is there a way to see the total AR?

Elena · Sep 02, 2007, 11:13 PM // 23:13

there is no total AR each time a enemy attacks you or casts a spell each piece of armor has a % of getting the hit. the chestpiece having the highest procent so if you chest is only 10AR and the rest 80AR u take lots of damage when hit on the chest

Nemo the Capitalist · Sep 03, 2007, 01:31 AM // 01:31

ok for example sword damage depends on enemy AI = armor

say ur attaking a corsair Cutthroat A.K.A tank = 80 Ai at least

ur Swordsmanship req was 8 ....u had it at 9 rite.....so ur damage was low as ur primary profession isnt a tank

Warriors can add points to STRENGTH which increases damage output.....

get it?

I Might Avenge U · Sep 03, 2007, 03:02 AM // 03:02

^^

Holy Crap, I found Nemo!..

HawkofStorms · Sep 03, 2007, 03:54 AM // 03:54

Strength doesn't add that much damage, though it does add a small amount of around 1 HP a hit at 10 (in fact its a pretty poor attribute).

Anyway, you were doing less damage for 2 reasons.
1) Enemies have armor level that reduces damage, just like players. You will notice that your sword will do less damage against warriors and paragon enemies, then against casters like mesmers and elementalists of equal levels.

2) The damage numbers given on a weapon are based on attacking a armor level 60 foe with 12 attribute points in a weapon. Although you meet the requirement of the weapon (and thus can wield it properly), you still aren't doing as much damage as you could be. Each point in a weapon attribute raises that weapons damage, so long as you meet the requirement. It doesn't matter what the requirement of the weapon is, so long as you meet it.

Example having 16 points in swordsmanship with a req 9 sword will do the same damage as using a req 10 sword, but having 15 points in swordsmanship does less damage then having 16 points in it.

Jagnot · Sep 04, 2007, 03:50 PM // 15:50

Ok, I think I understand about swords now.

P.S. so if I have a full suit of Elonian armor each of my.. digits has an 80% to get hit? Or does it mean if I get hit I have an 80% chance to not take damage?

OR, does it mean I simply take 80% less damage?

Waakku · Sep 04, 2007, 04:35 PM // 16:35

http://gw.gamewikis.org/wiki/Armor_level
You can see there how the AL affects damage you take.

Edit: typo

Sep 02, 2007, 08:52 PM // 20:52	#1
Jagnot Ascalonian Squire Join Date: Aug 2007 Guild: Big Red Ones Profession: P/Mo	I'm weaker than I should be.. No, really! I just finished the Command Post missions (Nightfall) and decided to switch from Paragon/Monk to Paragon/Warrior. ..One reason being I wanted to effectively use a gold sword I had found before hand. It makes poison last 33% longer (more on this in a bit) and does 10-13 damage, definitely NOT max damage, but it's my first gold item so I'll happily use it anyways. The thing is, once I switch over I allocated enough points to bring my swordsmanship skill up to 9 (my gold sword needed 8), I used it in combat against some Corsairs (I only have Nightfall) and I was doing 4-7 damage max! What's up with that?! Also, how do I use the +33% poison duration thing?

Sep 02, 2007, 08:59 PM // 20:59	#2
milan Desert Nomad Join Date: Nov 2005 Guild: BONE Profession: N/	you have to first consider the far lower damage that you are doing because of your weapon itself. Then consider damage mitigation that virtually everything in Elona has. The poison duration is if you use a skill that poisons the mob when you hit them with your sword, the poison duration will last 33% longer, i.e. stated poisoning time = 10 seconds, actual poisoning time = 13 seconds.

Sep 02, 2007, 09:25 PM // 21:25	#3
Jagnot Ascalonian Squire Join Date: Aug 2007 Guild: Big Red Ones Profession: P/Mo	So the reason I was doing hardly any damage was because they had some sort of resistance?

Sep 02, 2007, 09:55 PM // 21:55	#4
Coloneh Furnace Stoker Join Date: Nov 2006 Profession: D/W	yeah, they were wearing armor.

Sep 02, 2007, 10:16 PM // 22:16	#5
Jagnot Ascalonian Squire Join Date: Aug 2007 Guild: Big Red Ones Profession: P/Mo	Ah, thats another thing. Can anyone explain armor to me? Is there a way to see the total AR?

Sep 02, 2007, 11:13 PM // 23:13	#6
Elena Desert Nomad Join Date: May 2005 Location: Belgium	there is no total AR each time a enemy attacks you or casts a spell each piece of armor has a % of getting the hit. the chestpiece having the highest procent so if you chest is only 10AR and the rest 80AR u take lots of damage when hit on the chest

Sep 03, 2007, 01:31 AM // 01:31	#7
Nemo the Capitalist Desert Nomad Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Trust me you dont want to know my Chasms of Despair Guild: Zaishen Brotherhood Profession: N/Me	ok for example sword damage depends on enemy AI = armor say ur attaking a corsair Cutthroat A.K.A tank = 80 Ai at least ur Swordsmanship req was 8 ....u had it at 9 rite.....so ur damage was low as ur primary profession isnt a tank Warriors can add points to STRENGTH which increases damage output..... get it?

Sep 03, 2007, 03:02 AM // 03:02	#8
I Might Avenge U Jungle Guide Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: California Profession: R/	^^ Holy Crap, I found Nemo!..

Sep 03, 2007, 03:54 AM // 03:54	#9
HawkofStorms Hall Hero Join Date: Aug 2005 Profession: E/	Strength doesn't add that much damage, though it does add a small amount of around 1 HP a hit at 10 (in fact its a pretty poor attribute). Anyway, you were doing less damage for 2 reasons. 1) Enemies have armor level that reduces damage, just like players. You will notice that your sword will do less damage against warriors and paragon enemies, then against casters like mesmers and elementalists of equal levels. 2) The damage numbers given on a weapon are based on attacking a armor level 60 foe with 12 attribute points in a weapon. Although you meet the requirement of the weapon (and thus can wield it properly), you still aren't doing as much damage as you could be. Each point in a weapon attribute raises that weapons damage, so long as you meet the requirement. It doesn't matter what the requirement of the weapon is, so long as you meet it. Example having 16 points in swordsmanship with a req 9 sword will do the same damage as using a req 10 sword, but having 15 points in swordsmanship does less damage then having 16 points in it.

Sep 04, 2007, 03:50 PM // 15:50	#10
Jagnot Ascalonian Squire Join Date: Aug 2007 Guild: Big Red Ones Profession: P/Mo	Ok, I think I understand about swords now. P.S. so if I have a full suit of Elonian armor each of my.. digits has an 80% to get hit? Or does it mean if I get hit I have an 80% chance to not take damage? OR, does it mean I simply take 80% less damage?

Sep 04, 2007, 04:35 PM // 16:35	#11
Waakku Ascalonian Squire Join Date: Dec 2006 Profession: R/	http://gw.gamewikis.org/wiki/Armor_level You can see there how the AL affects damage you take. Edit: typo